Magfest Incident

Because LordKat/ his fans/ whoever wont shut up about what happened at MAGfest and I wrote this down in a thread about it at TGWTG.com

This is my comment about what happened.

To begin me and LordKat don’t much like each other. Last Magfest I tried to introduce myself and he didn’t give a shit (or more likely had no idea who I was) and in the year since we’ve had twitter fights where I’d say he was being a complete knob. I wanted to bury the hatchet this Mag but alas not to be.

Magfest. Saturday night. I have just finished filming a review. A guy staying with me and my wife in the room she paid for decides to hold his weekly live stream. Fine. Me and Omega head out and get some food or fresh air or something.

We arrive back hours later to find the room FULL of people. Mostly people we’re friends with. Turns out that the presenter invited someone who had just suffered a breakup up to the room and had decided to get her drunk for the amusement of the stream. The drink was leftovers from the party the previous night (my wife and I had paid for) How drunk was she? She doesnt much care for me and was EXTREMLY friendly and flirtatious. She was wasted.

One of the people in the room is LordKat. I tweet out about the stream because the guy holding it is a friend. We get told that the drunk woman had already been kissing random people in the room. The whole thing made me a little uncomfy. My wife asked asked for us to leave and so we did. Its the guys stream, its his business so we leave him to it.

We went next door where 2 other friends were staying and talked for a bout 30 minutes. Then someone who was in the room came to tell us that the crowd had cajoled the drunk woman into getting topless for the amusement of the stream. This pisses us off. She’s drunk, she can’t consent and their broadcasting (technically) porn from the room my wife paid for.

I check twitter and see how Reviewtopia publicised the stream. (To paraphrase) ‘If we get 30 viewers we’ll def see her tits again!’ and I lose it. They were offering a drunk womans flesh for your viewing amusement for 30 FUCKING VIEWS! I tweet that I’m sorry I publicised the stream, what happened disgusted me and I quit Reviewtopia. About 8 people quit Reviewtopia in the wake of the broadcast and tweet.

My tweet apparently helped end the stream because when I went next door again its over and everyone’s apologising to me. Not to the drunk woman, not to my wife who’s room it was. ME. It just added to my anger. In case you were wondering LordKat left with the drunk woman before I arrived back.

The next day I have a talk with Holly about whether this can affect CA because its turned into a semi-big-ish thing and no, the only way it affects CA is by people asking about it here or people spreading lies about people on CA.

Later on I hear there’s a rumour that Lordkat raped the drunk woman. When I hear it I do my best to put it straight. There was NO evidence that LordKat raped anyone.

Then I get home from Magfest and am linked to LordKats post-Magfest stream where he decided that I started the rumour and insults me for looking disgusting in the facepaint (Seeing as portly New Yorkers are who I aspire to turn-on I shall be changing my look forthwith).

Later on the stream he changes his mind and blames ALL OF CA and then SOMEONE IN CA over what happened, I really wish paranoid people would keep their theories consistent. When in the SOMEONE ON CA period he asks ‘why didn’t they come to me, why didn’t they ask my side of the story before starting the rumour’. He says that about 10 minutes after telling everyone I started the rumour when I didn’t.. without asking me for my side of the story. Anyway some of his more extreme fans have sent me some interesting tweets because of this.

Anyway in that stream he happily admitted to groping the drunk womans tits without her consent (something much worse than anything I realised had happened) and I lose all sympathy for the jackass and his plight.

Ever since I saw that stream I wanted to yell at him something along the lines of ‘you were part of a crowd that got an upset woman drunk, you were part of a crowd that convinced a drunk woman to take her top and then you groped her… and then you left with her. The stream had viewers. Its the internet, worse rumours have been started for MUCH less reason. How fucking stupid are you?!’

To sum up: I shoulda said no to holding the stream in the room, I shoulda kicked them out when they plied a woman with alcohol, I shoulda burst in there when I found about what happened. I shoulda called hotel security. There’s a lot I shoulda done and I’m sorry for all of it. But I wasn’t there when the bad shit happened and heard about it later on.

Now, this has NOTHING to do with CA.

Omega has done a (better written) blog post about it.

Sometimes I’m not so savvy or eloquent and sometimes I see things differently than others; in metaphors and patterns, in the simple terms of a child. I’m high-functioning autistic and it means my brain has certain physiological differences that often contribute to unique cognitive functioning. Occasional simpleton.

So I went to a convention a few weeks back. It wasn’t as much fun as I’d thought it would be. It was a lot of money, I was very sick, I spent most of my time acting as crew for my wife’s show, and then there was an Incident.

My wife and I returned to our room after filming and it was loud before we opened the door. When we did, it was so hot in there, stifling with an overwhelming odor of stale sweat, alcohol, and too many people. I turned the AC on. Everyone was loud and happily drunk and there were people everywhere. It’d been a hard day and the sudden crowd made me feel shaky and nervous and I retreated into silence. When I’m silent and still, with a child’s wide eyes, that’s how you can tell I’m not alright.

There was a woman there who I knew. We’d met last year, in passing, and once online, when I PM’ed her the link to the RDA FAQ on IRC. I knew all about her though, because everyone was talking about how she broke up with her boyfriend, and he didn’t come to the convention, and how she was really upset. She was barefoot and very drunk, came over to me and hugged me and said how much she liked me and all. Everyone laughed because ‘lesbian’ things are funny. Well, not to real lesbians. I guess fake ‘lesbian’ things are funny? This woman was very flirtatious with me and my wife. I felt uncomfortable.

For a moment, things slowed and the color washed out; I call these moments, ‘movie times’ because suddenly it feels like I’m an outside observer to the events around me. It’s just the conscious perception of cognitive dissonance though, so don’t worry. I felt like everyone was laughing at this woman, because the rumor was that she loves to drink and gets ‘crazy’ when she’s drunk, like she’s an object with a function, like a wind-up toy or a jack-in-the-box, instead of a real living person with a real mind. A woman there I didn’t know told me that she and the other woman kissed on camera. All the guys laughed and wooted again. The drunk woman stood up and almost fell over, helped back to her seat by a friend of mine.

This was not a good place to be. Things were wrong here. I asked my wife if I could talk to her out in the hall and she thought I was upset with her. I said we should do something, say something, everything felt wrong and horrible and I didn’t want to go back into our room. We decided to hang out next door with some friends of ours and that was fine for a bit. I still had that feeling like you do when you were a kid and that one friend suggested doing something really bad and you just felt like maybe you should tell an adult. I was the adult but I was sitting on my friend’s bed wringing my hands like a 5 year-old.

I needed my phone charger so I went back into the room and our one roommate was very upset and asked if he could come hang with us. I brought him back to the other room and he was shaking with rage and upset-ness as he told us that the crowd had talked the drunk woman into kissing other people and taking her top off, live on the stream. He was angry with himself for not saying anything and when I heard that, my stomach dropped because I hadn’t said anything either.

My wife was having none of this and tweeted about it, which is when I saw that my site was tweeting in a very vulgar way to get views for the stream. Above and beyond promising this woman topless again at 30 views, the tweets also described ‘hot lesbian action’, which as a for-reals lesbian, made my soul sink; being a lesbian is not 24-7 sex fetishized for a straight male audience, it’s just being. Perhaps my wife and I should record ourselves making dinner or driving somewhere and sell it as ‘lesbian action.’

Afterwards, well, you all know what happened. Thing is, people involved kept apologizing to me for ‘offending’ me, as if I was the woman everyone was manipulating like an object, as if I was the one being treated like a child or an animal, in a room full of hazy drunken revelry. I feel sick when I remember the short time I was in that room and I wish I had the cognitive eloquence to explain it to the extent that I felt it.

Everyone talks about rape culture as if it’s some invention by evil feminists looking down from their vaginal moon base, but it exists. There’s no rules or meeting place, or wiki, but it’s there. It’s there in all the guys who tried to apologize to me because there was disrespect (at least, if not more) to a woman and hey, *I’m* a woman too.

It’s there in those who defend the man who groped this drunk woman without her consent, when they attacked my wife and other female producers because they’re feminists, and hey, it’s all those UGLY (feminists are always ugly, natch) femi-nazi’s who just hate men because they secretly want ALL THE MEN (sluts!) and they’re trying to outlaw a man’s right to have FUN! It’s there in the fact that the men who were there who DID conduct themselves with grace and compassion, such as ensuring the drunk woman got back to her room and got her friend there to help, are shouted down by their fellows.

It’s there in that when I walked into that room and the drunk girl hugged me, for that moment I ceased to be myself and became an object too. Hot lesbian action, y’all! It’s there in all the people who will howl for months about feminist conspiracies and who’s responsible, rather than admit that a woman was taken advantage of, manipulated into doing something in front of the Internet, and groped without her consent, they’ll just howl that it’s all those damn women, being offended.

Other producers have discussed rape culture and didn’t make a mess of it, as this essay is rapidly becomming, so you should probably read what they have to say. Warning: it’s very intelligent. One of them said, this is the first thing I’ve said on the matter and it will be the last. That goes for me as well, even though I’m just a simpleton.

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27 Comments

  1. Thank you for clearing that up. All I knew was that something happened, a bunch of people left Reviewtopia and somehow Lord kat was involved. I did not know how bad this actually was.

    So… What were they thinking? That’s the first question that comes to mind. What were they even thinking? But then, no, I realised that question had one too many words. Were they even thinking? Sure doesn’t look that way. In fact, it wouldn’t be too surprising to learn that there were a lot more people drunk in that room than that poor woman.

    Were I involved with that site in any capacity I’d have left too. The whole incident stinks of unprofessionalism, a distinct lack of ethics or common sense and an overpowering oder of sexism.

    As for LordKat, well, I’m only going to attack the guy in one way: Based on what has been said here he needs to own up to the fact that he made a mistake. You, Diamanda, you did own up to your own mistake. That shows a tremendous maturity that I can respect. The more someone tries to cover themselves for a wrongdoing, the worse they tend to make themselves look.

    Thank you again, and I can only hope this will put this situation to rest. Unfortunately the Internet doesn’t tend to work that way.

  2. Urgh. This sounds absolutely horrible. Cons will be cons, unfortunately. I’ve been going to them since the 90s, and this is the sort of handbag fight that comes afterwards all too often: a media con in London where someone got drunk and started ‘lightheartedly’ quipping about his neo-nazi sympathies with the non-white delegates; a number of cons where so-and-so did the nasty with/molested so-and-so, with the kind of gut-twistingly horrible fall out you’d expect; plus the everyday, low grade nastiness of former colleagues/employees being forced together and getting horrifically drunk/sleep deprived over a period of days. This isn’t even a problem restricted to ‘fun’ cons, either: work based and professional cons are almost worse, because everyone is bored out of their skulls for most of the day and go nuts once they’re let off the leash.

    You really do have my sympathies. I’ve been lucky so far: I’ve been in publishing and media, and done a lot of business with web communities and I’ve never been caught up in this sort of thing yet (largely by remaining a rather dull and obscure individual,) and being entangled in something like this would be my nightmare.

    You’ve done the right thing: stated your position clearly, now comes time to stay out of it. If you just keep your head above water people will have moved on before Valentines Day.

  3. That’s horrible! I hadn’t heard anything– I don’t go to the forums much and I avoid LordKat’s stuff because I’m not a fan. Can a person be double not a fan? Triple? Because I’m seriously disgusted with him beyond what I thought possible.

    I’m sorry you and your wife got caught up in this. It’s awful and I don’t blame anyone who’s quit Reviewtopia because of it, reviewers or fans. I’m certainly not going back there.

    You have my respect for this, for stating the facts and being clear about what happened. Thank you for that. Wank will inevitable follow, it’s the internet after all, but hopefully it will die down soon. I wouldn’t mind it if people kept calling him out on his jackassery, though.

  4. My respect for you grows more and more,Diamanda.

    Do anyone know if anyone has contacted the drunk woman, to check up with her and such?

    • She was left with friends and was made safe. Iv not talked to her since because shes not my friend and I wont inject myself into her life anymore than has happened. Alas from what I’v heard she decided that it was all her fault. Which is bullshit.

      • Your right. Its not her fault!
        What kind of assholes do that kind of things to a someone who had just suffered a breakup?
        + I never liked LordKat anyway and this just proves me right.

  5. As unforgivable as the actions of the people involved were (And make no mistake, their behavior was and remains atrocious), the person who started the rapist rumor is a very dumb fuck who needs to think before acting.

  6. Thanks for being up front and explaining what happened, Diamanda. I’m terribly sorry that this happened and that you and Omega got caught up in it. I’m sorry for the drunk woman who got taken advantage of as well, and I’m disgusted that LordKat had the singularly poor judgment to do so.

  7. This is absolutely disgusting. I want to shove this against the faces of all those morons who insist that geek/gamer/comic/nerd culture is not misogynistic. Right, because coercing a woman to expose herself on camera and then playing the victim when it all blows up in their faces is not misogynistic at all. Urgh, I am just livid.

  8. Agreed, this is terrible. From now on I hope this serves as a warning for people to think about removing drunk women from room parties and have security get them to their room safely, or have a friend keep track of how much alcohol another is consuming and prevent them from drinking enough to get drunk so they can’t be taken advantage of.

    It’d be best to just eject anyone drunk at these things period.

  9. So, what I’m getting from this is LordKat is a douche and should generally be avoided at all costs. I don’t really know anything about tgwtg other than Todd, Hagan, Spoony (who LordKat ROYALLY screwed over) and Linkara.

    • Living in the NYC area jades me to a lot, but yeah, sometimes I can’t stand what LK says. The thing is, he doesn’t really care, by the next week, about a lot of what he gets up in arms about. He’s pretty much exactly the same as the “you’se” guy on Futurama; He’s crass, impolite and un-PC. Still, he has fans because he can be funny. It’s not bad to like his work, I know I enjoy a few of his shows quite a bit, but I shy away from his opinions of others because he’s typical … one might say stereotypical… of any male, life-long NYC native.

      For the record, I saw what LK had to say about Diamanda, and it’s totally groundless. Even without hearing her side first, I could tell he was talking out his @$$ on that score.

      • Based on what I saw of his stream during “Spoonygate” (as some have called it) last year around late June, he basically said some very stupid things and flew off the handle. He lashed back at his fans, banned and blocked people until someone finally got through is ego.
        And keep in mind, this was all In response to events that had nothing to do with him.

        A day later, he was streaming again, playing TF2 while talking with Obscurus Lupa about Spoony and the incident, and then he proceeded to act like a smug “I-don’t-care-anymore” jackass who was only trolling for ad-hits and views.
        He apologized to his fans, but not to the man whom he told to commit suicide (he stated he’d basically have to be forced to do that).

        Simply put, I blacklisted his site and never went back.
        He is scum, plain and simple.

        You say he just lets things go a week later, and on the surface, that’s exactly what it looks like. For most things, I’d believe that he does let them go.
        But having followed him for entirely too long, the guy clearly holds grudges, nasty grudges, and for a long time at that.

        His recent explosion at Channel Awesome and Diamanda Hagan wasn’t even coherent, and it’s by no means the first time he’s had issues with CA in general. Even 2 years after leaving he’s still slinging his man-shit at CA over things they really aren’t responsible for.

  10. First of all, I’m disappointed and upset this entire thing ever happened.

    Secondly, I’m upset that you and your wife had to get dragged into it and be maligned for being the responsible, adult ones here.

    I also have more respect for you right now than just about any celebrity (internet or otherwise) that’s ever been caught up in any sort of scandal . I admire your courage to very publicly own up to your perspective, admit to your biases and then give the pure facts that you knew without rumor or conjecture.

    I also admire the restraint that it takes to deny a rumor that to outside observers would look like a logical conclusion.

    I’m also glad you quit reviewtopia: people are judged by the quality of the company they keep, and that’s a judgement you should not have to bear.

    I’d also like to add between this, the “he should go kill himself” goonswarm debacle at EVE’s fan-fest, and a few other incidents I think we need to seriously try to change the “get wasted at cons” culture that leads to casual predation and very public bad behavior by people that aspire to be role-models for a fandom and/or community.

  11. This is from the perspective of someone who has followed a fair amount of the Channel Awesome crew and events (since 2008).

    I will be blunt here: LordKat is an angry child trapped in an adult’s body.

    He’s got a grudge with a number of people at CA, and some serious anger issues. Initially, I liked the guy for his kind of bluntly honest attitude especially in his UWW series, but ever since he left, the more I’ve heard about him, and the more I’ve heard from him, the worse he’s become.

    Now, I’m convinced just an asshole; an angry, egotistical manchild who cannot recognize obvious fucking folly right in front of him.

    Blaming others for losing interviews, telling Spoony to go kill himself, taking advantage of a woman at a con and now, blaming CA for spreading rumors about him without a shred of substance.

    As for the woman, I don’t blame her for this. I blame others for taking advantage of a state of emotional turmoil, and encouraging self-destructive behavior just for a cheap laugh.
    I get cons are supposed to be fun, but for fuck’s sake, show a little class.

    Diamanda, you were right to throw them out, and it’s good that you intervened when you did; I’ve seen where those sorts of “parties” go, and it could have ended much worse than it did.

  12. Respect to both of you for handling, and discussing, the whole mess as well as it could have been.

    I’ve stared down two drunken arseholes to get a friend out of something before it began – an entire room’s worth who were already ‘getting their show’? Not an easy thing to face, if it escalated – Tough judgement call to make, either way. Sucks to say, but you may have been right to get out of there.

    I don’t know, the whole thing just makes me feel queasy.

  13. Heya Diamanda, I’m a big fan. Watched pretty much all your vids, but this is the first time I’ve ever commented on anything. Wish it could have been under better circumstances.

    Plenty of folk have already commended you for how you handled it, and I can’t say it much better than they can. Just know that I really admire your keeping a cool head and defending your position so eloquently. You and your wife, whom I hope was not too shaken by “The Incident”. As a high-functioning autistic person myself, I can empathize with her position.

    Under the circumstances, you did the best you could. You cannot be blamed for not making the “right” choices under such high pressure, and a swift exit from the situation was probably the only option. Yes, there were other things you could have done (kicking them all out, etc), but I doubt I could have done better than you did. Furthermore, I know if I were taking flak from the twitterati for something I did not do, my response would not be as collected as yours. Throughout, you have done very well.

    Just know that you have the support and respect of many, many of your fans. I hope it helps.

    -Jack.

  14. I see this kind of thing/discussion happening in other communities as well, and what always strikes me as weird is the violent backlash against the people who act as the responsible adults in these kinds of situations. So I’m happy to see these supportive comments here.
    Makes me feel a little better about the internet and people in general.

    Respect earned.

  15. Diamanda I am disappointed. I thought you had thicker skin but this is your Nipplegate and in opposite to other posters here, I can sadly just see immature acting and a double standard.

    1.You say that women could not consent to what was happening, that she was “manipulated” to show her tits to a Stream. But all the Information that I can find says she is an adult, that she started to drink on her own and that she started to make out with people on her own aka initiating sensual/sexual body contact.
    I dont know how it is in the Angloamerican world, but in Germany getting drunk, doing things that one might regret and then taking responsibility for what one has done is part of being adult. Not a crime or something that turns people into victims.
    Being wasted, having emotional trouble and being cheered up by the people around into stupid things, does not absolve a person of responsibility and gives not all the fault to those people.
    And looking on all the Information that I can find, the only thing that says that this women in someway or form has been taken advantage of is your “political” interpretation of a non PC Tweet and an account from secound Hand.
    So a party of adult people with alcohol involved happened and everything was fun and game until someone had to swing the Club of Morality, then the childish finger pointing begun and ended with the rumor that accuses one guy of rape, that is pretty sad.

    You may not have started the rumor, but for swinging that club you don’t seem more mature to me then the Streamer who “promised” tits for 30 views.

    2. What ever one might think of LordKat and his random outbreaks of anger, I know you have watched his Video about Magfest.
    In this Video he has clearly stated that he was drunk the whole day and in fact that this is all he does always on Magfest: being drunk, playing Arcade and having fun with friends.
    So he is drunk, goes to the party/is invited to the Stream and this women comes to him and they make out.(And in what country does “making out” not include touch the others body?)
    Then came the moment, where the women showed her tits to the stream and he is touching it and this becomes unacceptable to what they where doing with each other before because?
    The Party then ends with the ensuing drama and instead of going to his room and passing out, LordKat is one of the people who is helping the women to her room and talk her down from her emotional high.
    Next day he has the honor of hiding in his room, because rumor is spreading that he raped that women and he fears of being accused.

    So how does it come Diamanda, that in your version the women could not consent to what she was doing, because she was “wasted”, but LordKat who was basically “wasted” the whole fucking day becomes this manipulative molester with evil intentions?
    Hell if after your view the women deserves an apology, because of the tweet and streaming her tits, shouldn’t Lordkat not also deserve an apology from people, because they where streaming his drunken Retardness without his consent?
    How is it not a double standard to speak the drunk women free of all wrong doing and then to ship the drunken guy together with the other possible not drunk people, who have escalated the situation?
    Considering that the rumor and its accusation, that was started by your action, is worse then anything that happened to the women, you owe him an apology alone for how you have handled things.

    At least in my opinion.

    3. Rape culture? Please stop using that word for such childish Things. People came apologizing to you two, because you saw it as a problem and made it one. Not the women you declared victim and martyr, its is impossible to apologize to a person who was not offended.
    If a double standard and patronizing people into victimhood against their will (and possible cultural worldview) is the opposite of “rape culture”, then I no longer wonder why nobody in their right mind wants to talk about it and it just ends in flamewars and endless trolling, because this shit is just pathetic.
    Yes there are hordes of misogynistic, homophobic Asshats out there in Nerd/Gamer Culture, but with those attributes you are not the opposite of them and stupid words like “femi-nazi’s” might not be wrong, because then you are just part of another antagonistic Mob attacking people for offending your moralistic fashion.

    I hope that my bad english is enough to explain my view, with respect

    Gruemann

    • 1, If she was drunk, had her own stream and got naked then I could care less. She was emotionally fucked over and brought to the room for the express purpose of being plied with drink in the hope something entertaining would happen. You cant consent when you’re as drunk as she was and LordKat admitted to groping her. I’m fairly sure that might be a crime and just so you know It was the woman who decided not to pursue the matter legally.

      My tweet that had nothing to do with the accusations against LordKat and your attempt to equivocate it with the teet from reviewtopia is rather fucked up. I was expressing my displeasure about what had happened, they were advertising a flesh fair starring a drunk woman.

      2, I was in the room. LordKat may well have been drinking but he was in no-way wasted. He was coherent, he made decisions. The woman was completely trashed. How fucking drunk was she? She could barely stand, could barely put a sentence together. She doesn’t much care for me and began drunkenly flirting with me and my wife (in front of the other one). Its not JUST a matter of her having been drinking. Its HOW DRUNK she was.

      Yeah LordKat went and helped her to her room. He also helped get someone drunk, helped convince her to expose herself and groped her. Forgive me for not giving a shit about how LordKat acted with basic fucking human dignity near the end of the night but I do not and shall not give people points for doing what the very least of what their supposed to do in any given situation. LordKat helped her to her room and didn’t take advantage of her… Id be more impressed if he acted like the decent human being that he’s not a few hours earlier.

      3, I don’t think I used the term ‘rape culture’. My account was deliberately in short, simple bullet-points. Take up Omegas account with her (where she can answer you far more eloquently than I can) But rape-culture (maybe the names not quite accurate) does exist, it minimizes a lot of fucked up things and blames a lot of victims. A couple of things you seem to have been swimming in during your post. No wonder you don’t like rape culture being referenced, it gives a name to shit you seem to be okay with.

      Your English was fine Gruemann. That’s why i find it hard to respect you right now.

    • Listen to me. What you are doing is rape apologism. You are absolving the people around this woman from any blame and placing responsibility/blame on the victim. You are also engaging in rape denialism, by downplaying a predatory situation and denying that any sexually abusive or predatory attitude took place. This is extremely crass and insensitive towards rape survivors, as it reinforces societal pressures of keeping quiet and not making a fuss, blaming oneself and letting sexually predatory people get away with their creepy behaviour.

      This “double standard” you speak seems to me that it’s more about how Lord Kat was able to get drunk and nobody tried to take advantage of him or ask him to show his ass or dick for a camera. So you’ll forgive me if I have no sympathy for him or any of the other drunk men in the room.

      Rape culture is a thing that exists. Nobody wants to acknowledge it, because doing so means trying to put a stop on sexually predatory attitudes that currently exist and are awfully comfortable for society in general, as well as bringing a lot of secrets into light that a shockingly high amount of people carry with them since childhood or adolescence. Just because you had the fortune of not being sexually assaulted doesn’t mean there isn’t a very high number of people (particularly women) who have to carry with them the memory of an event where they were subjected to sex or sexual advances without their consent. Get on the internet, do a search on rape testimonials (like weretelling.tumblr.com). You’ll be damn shocked.

      At the end of the day, blaming this on the woman is absolutely disgusting. A lot of people blame rape or sexual assault victims for what happened to them, based on what they were wearing, what they were drinking, their attitudes, if they were known for sleeping around, etc. That does absolutely nothing to erase the rape or sexual assault, and only serves to let rapists and sexually predatory people walk away unpunished, while society closes their eyes, sticks their fingers in their ears and pretends nothing’s happened.

      • @Diamanda thank you for your comment. It cleared some things and showed me that anglo-american culture has more problems with sexuality then I thought.

        @SK No and yes. No, I do not apologize Lordkats or any other persons actions and tried to differentiate between people.(with varying success)
        It is my view that all people in this had responsibility to act mature and that the whole situation was less severe, then what was made out of it.
        I see the people involved as smarter then this, so you can take me as an somewhat butt hurt fan in a way if you will.
        Secound yes rape culture exist and I could name you examples of old and recent history, but cases like this do not count, no matter how nice you have copied and pasted the feminist narrative and tried to guilt me with “rape apologism”.
        I also don’t need your link to rape testimonials from women, having read letters and accounts from eastern Europe at the end of WWII has giving me enough nightmare fuel for a live.

  16. I was just on Radio Dead Air’s Blip page and I noticed that there haven’t been any Tuesday Tech Talks or How To Do Its posted since MAGfest. It’s official, LK has burned any bridges he had left with the CA community. Good riddance to a waste of human life. Thankfully you and the other folks at That Guy With The Glasses and Reviewtopia have better judgment than that. I can’t even begin to imagine what being involved in something this horrible is like, but I hope that you, Omega, and whoever this poor woman is who was treated so savagely are never subjected to anything like this ever again.

    As a man, this is one of those tragic incidents that make me ashamed of my gender. I know that sounds like an extreme thing to say, but this was a pretty extreme incident, so an extreme response feels warranted. Bravo to you, Diamanda, if only we all had your courage.

  17. I do believe the statement “rape culture” is a bit of a misnomer, but the trend for woman to be still treaded as objects and second class members of any aspect of our society sickens me. I HATE the “make me a sandwich, lol” meme. congrats on speaking up and out about this subject.
    @ omega, first you write eloquently, allowing me to see and feel what you went through and I am sorry for everyone who was used in that room. Second, I know how it feel in that situation. as someone who is on borderline of having asperger’s syndrome, if i am not careful I will become paralyzed in a crowd an the only thing I can think of is OHGODESCAPERUNHELPOHGODHELPHELP!

  18. dimanda i think you havent seen this video: (from the drunk woman’s perspective) http://www.twitch.tv/lordkat/c/1987673

  19. Wow. I had no idea this even happened.

    I used to be a huge Lordkat fan. Then I heard about this. And I saw his ‘rebuttal’. The sad/hilarious thing is he knows he’s a pathetic piece of fat, ugly shit who will only get near pussy if he takes it by force. Even when he’s trying to be intimidating in the video, you know he knows he’s fucked up.

    Pig jackass. Fuck him.

  20. wow that’s kinda messed up :0


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